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Atheism, Penn Jillette, Gerry and Me?

So today i had a rather enlightening facebook debate with Mr Gerry Mcambridge. You know the one, The Mentalist. The Vegas mentalist and the very same dude who created the Tv show.

So the topic of Atheism we chatted about stemmed from a video he uploaded about the bullet catch and how it is done, of course i am not going to post said video because i don’t think its right. I’ll leave the mystery with you folks.

Basically i thought i’d butt in and add my 2 pence worth if ya get what i’m saying.

Here is the conversation:                Key: GM- Gerry Mcambridge      LH- Me
Hopefully this looks alright enough to read…

Penn and Teller are quite vocal when it comes
to their hatred towards mentalists. They verbally bash and expose
mentalists every chance they get. So reposting this video, exposing the
grand finale effect in their Las Vegas show is a cyber way of saying F-U
to the atheist loud mouths of magic. Please LIKE if you think Penn is a
loud mouth, arrogant jerk.’ – GM

‘Firstly i don’t want to be
the guy who says no take this down as you have every right to express
your opinion but… I am sure they haven’t said they hate mentalists.
Only the ones whose act makes them out to be something more than the
average guy or “psychic”. Yes Penn is a loud mouth but also actually a
lovely guy.
Also i don’t understand why
you have put ” Atheist loud mouths of magic”, i don’t see why their
belief system is so important when saying that, it seems you are using
it as a bad thing to me there. When it is totally out of context.
Just my thoughts on this.

‘ – LH


‘Luke,
Penn NEVER saw me perform, yet felt the need to go on his radio show,
and publicly talk about me directly and make claims about my show and
expose some of my secrets. My show is as honest as the day is long, yet
since I am a mentalist, I fall under his umbrella of hate.



 

 



I personally don’t give a rats ass what religion a person is, who a
person voted for, what a persons sexual orientation is, or what is the
color of a persons skin. But Penn loves to shove his religious beliefs
down people’s throats, not only in every day life, but during his
performance as well. Can you believe the vanity license plate on his car
reads “NOGOD.” Now there is a man who proudly boasts about being an
Atheist!



 

 


When I attended their show many years ago, I paid to
go see a magic show, not to see Penn get on his soap box and preach
about there being no God.


 



What Penn does in private is his own
business, but if Penn wore ladies cloths on stage while performing, he
would be the “cross dresser of magic.” So since he discusses religion
openly during his act, he is the “loud mouth atheist of magic.”
The funniest part about the
“Magic Bullet” trick is Penn and Teller weren’t creative enough to think
of it. The trick was the creation of a magician who sold them the
rights to use the trick.

Since the magician makes his living as
a professional mentalist, it means Penn and Teller hate all mentalists,
UNLESS they sell them an effect to use in their Las Vegas show. Then
they get a “Get Out of Jail” free card.’ – GM




‘I
understand what you mean there calling him the Atheist of magic and he
does seem to like to prostheletize and i don’t see anything wrong with
that to be honest. When i saw his show it wasn’t a show about religion,
it was a great show based on beautiful
magical as well as moral ideals intertwined with what makes America
great the foremost in my mind being ‘Freedom Of Speech’.


I mean
no disrespect to you of course but i just wanted to see another
viewpoint and i thought, why don’t that viewpoint be mine. 😀


I
don’t want to say what you saw when you did go to the show as the
different ideas could be interpreted in different ways. When i went my
friends saw the tricks and it stopped there for them whereas for me the
ideas and thought process comes more into play.
Still don’t think he said anything about hating Mentalists 😛

 

 

I haven’t listened to the show you mentioned in a while either. I might dig that one out.’ – LH

 

 



 

 


‘Penn has his opinions, and is
quite vocal about sharing them with his internet fans, radio audience
and his live audience. He has no problem bashing and exposing mentalists
when ever he finds the opportunity.



 



I found the explanation video while
surfing YouTube. It contains someones personal explanation of the
bullet catch trick. I enjoy sharing my internet discoveries with my
Facebook fans and friends. I do not refrain from expressing my opinion
when I have one, nor do I refrain from posting them on MY Facebook page.



 



If you did not notice ..BLANK NAME…,
we are not friends on Facebook. You subscribed to my Facebook page. I
did not subscribe to yours. I do not care to earn your respect, nor do I
care to keep it.



 



If you read my profile before you unsubscribe
Eric, it says: I would rather be hated for the person I truly am, than
to be liked and respected for the person I am not.’ – GM



So that bit was mainly about the Bullet Catch and Mentalists.


Now this bit stemmed from the Interview of Penn Jillette on his new book by Piers Morgan.



 

 


‘If you do not know anything about Penn
Jillette’s opinions on being an atheist, here are a few. In this video I
think he calls religious nuns… monkeys!! (or did I take it out of
context).

And since he says he is a huge fan of people speaking
their minds, I guess he no problem with my posts showing how someone
“thinks” he does his “magic bullet” trick.

Penn also says
people should talk strongly about what they believe, so I am sure he has
no problem with me calling him a jerk, because I strongly believe it.

I will defend to the death,
anyones right to believe in what ever they want to believe in. But I do
not support someones need to preach to others or call their beliefs
wrong.
‘ – GM


 




‘Its
a very good read, plenty of entertaining ideas and stories, i think you
should give it a try. Saying you do not support someones need to preach
to others seems a bit redundant Gerry, i have read the book and he
doesn’t seem to say that other peoples
beliefs are wrong, he just doesn’t believe in that himself. In the book
he just gives alternatives to things represented within the bible in
his own way.

Its just putting a spin on ideas there. It is highly entertaining and well worth the read.’ – LH



 


But should a book about God
be entertaining Luke? Religion and God are very personal issues. They
touch people at the core of their religious beliefs. Writing a book
about it to be entertaining, or to get yourself on TV to promote your
Las Vegas show just doesn’t sit well with me.




Why doesn’t he write a book about having sex with his wife, or his
bathroom habits, or his massive hemorrhoids, or how much money he made
last year, or Teller’s sexual preference? Because they are very personal
issues to him.



 



But since God is not a personal issue to Penn,
he finds it OK to entertain people with. He annoys and agitates (Piers
Morgan’s words) people to be controversial and gain attention, instead
of being a little more discrete and select another topic to pontificate
about.’ – GM


If you look at the book you
would find that the stories and entertainment value within is based upon
stories relating to his aforementioned bible alternatives. I don’t
think this can hurt or annoy anyone, besides if they don’t like it if it
did offend then just stop reading and ignore it. I don’t see why he
talking about his beliefs is a bad thing, if people of a religious
nature can do the same.

Atheism is as much of a belief as any
other philosophy or thought process in the same way as many other
religions in the way that ( now this is kind of hard for me to put into
words but) religious thoughts and the outcome at the end of it is a
gamble as surely no one can prove for sure there is a heaven and/or
hell, therefore doesn’t too deserve the same. For some the option is
harder to be Atheist because we don’t have that backing of sorts and the
same organizational structure for lack of a better term. Plus Atheists
always seem to get tarred with the brush that deems them immoral just
because they don’t follow a religion when this is not the case or fair
to people to be so generalized and put into a category.

(I don’t know if that makes the greatest sense, i have been awake quite some time today :P)’ – LH

 

‘I
respect your opinions Luke. And I respect your decision to be an
atheist. I was born into a catholic family. I went to catholic school
for 8 years. I was an alter boy and attended many church services as a
kid…. and yet i am still torn when it comes to my religion.



I have diffuculty believing in organized religion. I have difficulty
going to church weekly and being told to tithe 10% of my money to the
church. I have diffuculty believing….


But I don’t write
books about it, and go on TV and preach about it, and use it to create
controversy and attention. It’s a personal issue that should remain
personal.



 

 


Let’s agree to disagree Luke. 🙂



If we take the word atheist out of the topic… Penn is still an loud mouth, bully ass hole.’ – GM
 
 

 ‘Thank you sir, it was a
delight to have this debate, i quite enjoyed it to be honest. There
isn’t much better than exchanging and discussing ideas.

And of course i will respect your right to say whatever you like. I agree to disagree of course 😀 .

This was indeed enlightening.
I may chat again next time. Have a good day matey.’ – LH


So this was my attempt at ending all nice like and ending the small debate.
 
 

 


‘And I bet if one of Penn’s
kiss ass magic buddies send him a link to this post, he will love it,
because that is what Penn is all about. Getting attention and creating
controversy by being loud and annoying. So this is exactly what Penn
wants, people talking about Penn.
‘ –GM



I actually really enjoyed this debate, just hopefully i made sense and made it clear that Atheists are good too. Like me.



Well i tried to get my point out and do what i could .


Cheers.

Of course i don’t think any less or more of Gerry, he is still an ok guy.

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Hitchens

So it seems Christopher Hitchens has died. Not good… The guy did some amazing work and wrote some very interesting books such as one called ‘God is not great’. The guy has inspired many people i’m sure.

I’m quite unsure what to write my mind has gone blank and i just feel awkwardly sad. So here is the article from Vanity Fair for which he worked for for quite a while.

By Gasper Tringale.

Christopher Hitchens—the incomparable critic, masterful rhetorician, fiery wit, and fearless bon vivant—died today at the age of 62. Hitchens was diagnosed with esophageal cancer in the spring of 2010, just after the publication of his memoir, Hitch-22, and began chemotherapy soon after. His matchless prose has appeared in Vanity Fair since 1992, when he was named contributing editor.

“Cancer victimhood contains a permanent temptation to be self-centered and even solipsistic,” Hitchens wrote nearly a year ago in Vanity Fair, but his own final labors were anything but: in the last 12 months, he produced for this magazine a piece on U.S.-Pakistani relations in the wake of Osama bin Laden’s death, a portrait of Joan Didion, an essay on the Private Eye retrospective at the Victoria and Albert Museum, a prediction about the future of democracy in Egypt, a meditation on the legacy of progressivism in Wisconsin, and a series of frank, graceful, and exquisitely written essays in which he chronicled the physical and spiritual effects of his disease. At the end, Hitchens was more engaged, relentless, hilarious, observant, and intelligent than just about everyone else—just as he had been for the last four decades.

“My chief consolation in this year of living dyingly has been the presence of friends,” he wrote in the June 2011 issue. He died in their presence, too, at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas. May his 62 years of living, well, so livingly console the many of us who will miss him dearly.

This article is from http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/12/In-Memoriam-Christopher-Hitchens-19492011

New Book By Penn Jillette

Buy me this…

I believe this book is that right buy for me. Firstly its by Penn Jillette. Secondly its about Atheism and religion.
Thirdly its by Penn Jillette. There is also an audio version.
Apparently it features Penn commandments which should be hilarious i’m sure.

For anyone interested in stuff like this go and follow Penn’s vblog thing on youtube. Penn Point

Also go and buy Sock which is also written by Penn.

SITP today

So todays SITP was at the Fellows Morton and Clayton in Nottingham and featured a talk by Iszi Lawrence and it was awesome.

The talk consisted mainly of comedic interpretation of what being skeptical is and a bit about atheism and other religion which was cool, Iszi really seemed to work the audience well and had everyone laughing in no time which made the atmosphere enjoyable even though the space in the room was severely limited, due to Andy not knowing how many people would show up and so we filled the little upstairs roomy balcony-ish thing and some people had to sit below and listen.

The talk was funny and lined with laughter from the audience due to some of Iszi’s anecdotes and opinions, it made for a real fun night and yeah she seemed really nice and we had a quick chat during the interval and she seemed genuinely nice and chatty. She does also seem to have a bit of a crush on either Alan Rickman or just his mouth/voice. Fun. Would enjoy watching her comedic stylings once again especially in the setting of an actual comedy gig. Also go check out her podcast called the ‘Sunday Supplement’.

All in all it was great and i can’t wait till the next talk next month by Rebecca Watson which is something about ‘etiquette for skeptics’. Ooooh.

Pow!

Cheers for the people who read this. I was super tired when typing this so it probably just repeats itself. Ah well.

Tattoos

As the people who know me personally know i like tattoos and have nine myself.

My two favourite tattoos though are probably my Darwin Fish.

This was the design i stole for it i believe.

My other has to be the Atheist symbol infused with a kind of darwinian tree of life.

Does anyone have any other ideas for and cool science skeptic or magic tattoos i can have next, my parents have done all of mine maybe i will get some real pics of them when possible. So yeah any ideas would be cool and i am a bit stuck on what to have next. My darwin fish is on my right leg my left leg has the Stay puft marshmallow man on.

My right wrist has the Atheist symbol on while my left wrist has a symbol on for my love of music which is a treble clef and a bass clef. I think this one was the design i used for it.

I am pretty useless putting pictures in i think so sorry about the bad looking posts.

Here is a link to my music tattoo when i first had it done. Pow

I’ll get better i promise.